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Glen Andersen's avatar

Lots of folks in the Human Potential Movement ( to use a more dated mainstream term- I find New Age far too tainted) have a poor filter for dodgy people and lack boundaries. Goes with the territory suppose.

I got a free ticket to hear DC speak at the Orpheum about 20 years ago. He went on in a self-congratulatory way for a few hours about Synchronicity as a mostly female audience drank it up. He definitely had the gift of the gab- which is a karmic astrological thing, perhaps even a learned thing, but doesn’t confer sainthood, -like the Donald has that gift too, notwithstanding his talking stick being a very blunt tool.

With Chomsky, his punitive PoV on COVID dissidents was way off base, even if he was loyally “following the science” like a good academician -or like most leftists. Another crude reactive and fear-based response. We can cut an old man some slack but that position bordered on murderous. I don’t think he lost a lot of followers though which left progressives in the conspiratorium looking both ways. When the heroes of the critical Left fall for a psyop it’s indeed a grand success. I recall Deepak being more sensible on that issue. But even the best humans are weak. Even the most “principled” can be fooled by the allure of money. Mark Twain nailed it. The ego is a fabulous construct , capable of multiple simultaneous delusions -a hall of mirrors within a house of cards . Oscar Wilde: “most people are other people. Their thoughts are someone else’s, their lives a mimicry, their passions a quotation”

But still here we are, naked again. Rebuilding our worldviews. The cats are out of the bags, running wild in the streets.Everything is a psyop now. Including the Self. And with Adbusters (who kicked off Occupy) now also impotently irrelevant we are in a new world of possibility where the progressive tent can actually get bigger, realizing we are not the smug superior know-it-alls on every topic under an atheist’s Sun. No kings. No Leaders. Only fools with our choice of hats. Just a lot of pissed off ordinary people in an extraordinary time, with an even clearer sense of US vs THEM (those Higherups exploiting me) . Every thing and everyone for their time. That time is always NOW. Thanks for your insights

Geoff Olson's avatar

Well said, Glen! Too good for a comment section, should be in a Substack post of your own.

Peter Sircom Bromley's avatar

In our culture, ideas and beliefs regarding gender relations in general, and sexuality in particular, are distorted and often perverse. Yet these ideas and beliefs are commonplace and therefore considered normal. As individuals, we establish our orientation toward these normalcies at an impressionable age, and so can easily – and permanently – fall prey to the aberrations embedded in them. So from this angle, it makes more sense to see luminaries such as Chomsky, Prince Andrew, Chopra, Trump (and the under-aged women involved) as casualties.

Geoff Olson's avatar

I see your point, and don’t totally disagree…ultimately everyone is a product of their upbringing and particular ‘zeitgeist’…but if the behaviour of these highly-regarded, well connected figures represents ‘normalcy’ at the top - not unthinkable - then we’re in even bigger trouble than most think.

Bard Joseph's avatar

The World Order sets up countless groups to promote any type of idea, and then sets up other groups to fanatically oppose them, but the masters have no dedication to anything except slavery." The World Order Eustace Mullins 1992

Geoff Olson's avatar

Sometimes. I believe, for example, that the Freedom Convoy movement was among the few grassroots uprisings that utterly took the corporate state by surprise. They just weren’t prepared by that move, and its scale.

“Orange revolutions,” for sure. But to believe that every protest is part of a pre-arranged Hegelian dialectic from the top is a great way to convince people to do utterly nothing.

Jess Hansen's avatar

The Freedom Convoy was all about American fascists using Canadian anger with their govt to divide Canadians. How could anyone know whether it was a purely Canadian grassroots movement, or not?

It divided Canadians and helped fuel Alberta separatists.

I'm not exclusively pro or anti-vaccine. That's not what this is about. It's about voter discontent among a minority in a Democratic Socialist country and how it worked to Fascist advantage. You can see how this has evolved in the last few years and how we are now more at risk than ever.

Geoff Olson's avatar

Ah yes, we poor Canadians, exploited in 2020 by a vast criminal conspiracy of US fascism. Like this guy, maybe not a trucker himself, but obviously another confused victim of US fascist funding frolics…

https://x.com/ryangerritsen/status/2015447980485103692?s=42

Richard Legrande's avatar

"The Freedom Convoy was all about American fascists using Canadian anger with their govt to divide Canadians." - now that's a conspiracy theory! Why assume a faceless cabal mysteriously causing extensive change when the openly-stated reason is far more parsimonious? Truckers (and many others) didn't want an injection they didn't need. Their bodies, their choice.

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Richard Legrande's avatar

Then present that evidence rather than condescendingly dismissing the legitimate grievances of thousands of Canadians standing up for basic human rights.

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Jess Hansen's avatar

And as it turns out, another sacred cow goes down in flames. Carney just released a statement claiming "Canadians" support Israel and the US latest newly minted war on Iran. And I'll grant you this, Geoff, because I read a lot of what you write, I wasn't too surprised. Carney and the liberal party have lost my vote. Once somebody shows you who they are, believe them!

Jess Hansen's avatar

Your comments about Chomsky, Epstein are spot on. Sorry I derailed the comment section. It pains me to see you supporting the Freedom Convoy, and I hope you understand my ongoing frustration with anyone who still supports them. Medical freedom, yes! I get that and support it but not through the Convoy.

Richard Legrande's avatar

Wise of you to delete your earlier comments, and good to hear that you support medical freedom! Why, then, not support people protesting to keep their medical freedom, which is precisely what the Freedom Convoy was about. Yes, there are bad actors that tarnish any protest these days (and influencers that profit from any kind of rage-baiting), but if you engaged with those on the ground, in the convoy, you'd see hard-working truckers, farmers, and other laborers merely trying to protect their lives and livelihood. Their courageous action did more to turn the tide of oppression than all the words and gestures of academics and media pundits. While others bickered, they acted - quite heroically, given the sacrifices they made.

Jess Hansen's avatar

Would you like me to dm you?

Richard Legrande's avatar

No need. Just reconsider your perspective on the thousands of brown-skinned, blue-collar essential workers that endured the worst during the pandemic to keep the stay-at-home laptop class fed and supplied, and then bravely sacrificed their time and money to defend human rights for all. Canadians should be proud of them.